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English

They were a spontaneous people, a people that lived, they would kill themselves between families —as happens today in the barrios of Caracas, México, etc., they are areas of violence—. I recall that on another occasion this gypsy brought me a group of gypsies. It was very hot and we sat outside, in the countryside, in an Indian circle.

Spanish

Eran gente espontánea, viva, se mataban entre las familias (lo que son hoy los barrios de Caracas, México, etc., son zonas de violencia) Otro día recuerdo que este gitano me trae un grupo de gitanos, hacía mucho calor y nos sentábamos fuera, en el campo, en círculo como los indios.